In this episode, Niki, Natalia, and Neil discuss – and celebrate! – Natalia’s new book Fit Nation: The Gains and Pains of America’s Exercise Obsession.
Here are some links and references mentioned during this week’s show:
- Fit Nation is now available for order. You can buy here.
In our regular closing feature, What’s Making History:
- Natalia talked about the new Hulu series, “Fleishman is in Trouble.”
- Neil commented on Season 3 of the podcast, Blowback, which focuses on the Korean War.
- Niki recommended the Contingent Magazine, and discussed Sara Mohr’s piece, “Penelope Garcia’s Criminal Minds.”



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